Categories
Posts in this category
- Current State of Exceptions in Rakudo and Perl 6
- Meet DBIish, a Perl 6 Database Interface
- doc.perl6.org and p6doc
- Exceptions Grant Report for May 2012
- Exceptions Grant Report -- Final update
- Perl 6 Hackathon in Oslo: Be Prepared!
- Localization for Exception Messages
- News in the Rakudo 2012.05 release
- News in the Rakudo 2012.06 release
- Perl 6 Hackathon in Oslo: Report From The First Day
- Perl 6 Hackathon in Oslo: Report From The Second Day
- Quo Vadis Perl?
- Rakudo Hack: Dynamic Export Lists
- SQLite support for DBIish
- Stop The Rewrites!
- Upcoming Perl 6 Hackathon in Oslo, Norway
- A small regex optimization for NQP and Rakudo
- Pattern Matching and Unpacking
- Rakudo's Abstract Syntax Tree
- The REPL trick
- First day at YAPC::Europe 2013 in Kiev
- YAPC Europe 2013 Day 2
- YAPC Europe 2013 Day 3
- A new Perl 6 community server - call for funding
- New Perl 6 community server now live, accepting signups
- A new Perl 6 community server - update
- All Perl 6 modules in a box
- doc.perl6.org: some stats, future directions
- Profiling Perl 6 code on IRC
- Why is it hard to write a compiler for Perl 6?
- Writing docs helps you take the user's perspective
- Perl 6 Advent Calendar 2016 -- Call for Authors
- Perl 6 By Example: Running Rakudo
- Perl 6 By Example: Formatting a Sudoku Puzzle
- Perl 6 By Example: Testing the Say Function
- Perl 6 By Example: Testing the Timestamp Converter
- Perl 6 By Example: Datetime Conversion for the Command Line
- What is Perl 6?
- Perl 6 By Example, Another Perl 6 Book
- Perl 6 By Example: Silent Cron, a Cron Wrapper
- Perl 6 By Example: Testing Silent Cron
- Perl 6 By Example: Stateful Silent Cron
- Perl 6 By Example: Perl 6 Review
- Perl 6 By Example: Parsing INI files
- Perl 6 By Example: Improved INI Parsing with Grammars
- Perl 6 By Example: Generating Good Parse Errors from a Parser
- Perl 6 By Example: A File and Directory Usage Graph
- Perl 6 By Example: Functional Refactorings for Directory Visualization Code
- Perl 6 By Example: A Unicode Search Tool
- What's a Variable, Exactly?
- Perl 6 By Example: Plotting using Matplotlib and Inline::Python
- Perl 6 By Example: Stacked Plots with Matplotlib
- Perl 6 By Example: Idiomatic Use of Inline::Python
- Perl 6 By Example: Now "Perl 6 Fundamentals"
- Perl 6 Books Landscape in June 2017
- Living on the (b)leading edge
- The Loss of Name and Orientation
- Perl 6 Fundamentals Now Available for Purchase
- My Ten Years of Perl 6
- Perl 6 Coding Contest 2019: Seeking Task Makers
- A shiny perl6.org site
- Creating an entry point for newcomers
- An offer for software developers: free IRC logging
- Sprixel, a 6 compiler powered by JavaScript
- Announcing try.rakudo.org, an interactive Perl 6 shell in your browser
- Another perl6.org iteration
- Blackjack and Perl 6
- Why I commit Crud to the Perl 6 Test Suite
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 Week 5: Implement Str.trans
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 Week 8: Implement $*ARGFILES for Rakudo
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 Week 6: Improve Book markup
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 Week 2: Fix up a test
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 Week 9: Implement Hash.pick for Rakudo
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 Week 11: Improve an error message for Hyper Operators
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 - Lottery Intermission
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 Week 3: Write supporting code for the MAIN sub
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 Week 1: A website for proto
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 Week 4: Implement :samecase for .subst
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 Week 10: Implement samespace for Rakudo
- This Week's Contribution to Perl 6 Week 7: Implement try.rakudo.org
- What is the "Cool" class in Perl 6?
- Report from the Perl 6 Hackathon in Copenhagen
- Custom operators in Rakudo
- A Perl 6 Date Module
- Defined Behaviour with Undefined Values
- Dissecting the "Starry obfu"
- The case for distributed version control systems
- Perl 6: Failing Softly with Unthrown Exceptions
- Perl 6 Compiler Feature Matrix
- The first Perl 6 module on CPAN
- A Foray into Perl 5 land
- Gabor: Keep going
- First Grant Report: Structured Error Messages
- Second Grant Report: Structured Error Messages
- Third Grant Report: Structured Error Messages
- Fourth Grant Report: Structured Error Messages
- Google Summer of Code Mentor Recap
- How core is core?
- How fast is Rakudo's "nom" branch?
- Building a Huffman Tree With Rakudo
- Immutable Sigils and Context
- Is Perl 6 really Perl?
- Mini-Challenge: Write Your Prisoner's Dilemma Strategy
- List.classify
- Longest Palindrome by Regex
- Perl 6: Lost in Wonderland
- Lots of momentum in the Perl 6 community
- Monetize Perl 6?
- Musings on Rakudo's spectest chart
- My first executable from Perl 6
- My first YAPC - YAPC::EU 2010 in Pisa
- Trying to implement new operators - failed
- Programming Languages Are Not Zero Sum
- Perl 6 notes from February 2011
- Notes from the YAPC::EU 2010 Rakudo hackathon
- Let's build an object
- Perl 6 is optimized for fun
- How to get a parse tree for a Perl 6 Program
- Pascal's Triangle in Perl 6
- Perl 6 in 2009
- Perl 6 in 2010
- Perl 6 in 2011 - A Retrospection
- Perl 6 ticket life cycle
- The Perl Survey and Perl 6
- The Perl 6 Advent Calendar
- Perl 6 Questions on Perlmonks
- Physical modeling with Math::Model and Perl 6
- How to Plot a Segment of a Circle with SVG
- Results from the Prisoner's Dilemma Challenge
- Protected Attributes Make No Sense
- Publicity for Perl 6
- PVC - Perl 6 Vocabulary Coach
- Fixing Rakudo Memory Leaks
- Rakudo architectural overview
- Rakudo Rocks
- Rakudo "star" announced
- My personal "I want a PONIE" wish list for Rakudo Star
- Rakudo's rough edges
- Rats and other pets
- The Real World Strikes Back - or why you shouldn't forbid stuff just because you think it's wrong
- Releasing Rakudo made easy
- Set Phasers to Stun!
- Starry Perl 6 obfu
- Recent Perl 6 Developments August 2008
- The State of Regex Modifiers in Rakudo
- Strings and Buffers
- Subroutines vs. Methods - Differences and Commonalities
- A SVG plotting adventure
- A Syntax Highlighter for Perl 6
- Test Suite Reorganization: How to move tests
- The Happiness of Design Convergence
- Thoughts on masak's Perl 6 Coding Contest
- The Three-Fold Function of the Smart Match Operator
- Perl 6 Tidings from September and October 2008
- Perl 6 Tidings for November 2008
- Perl 6 Tidings from December 2008
- Perl 6 Tidings from January 2009
- Perl 6 Tidings from February 2009
- Perl 6 Tidings from March 2009
- Perl 6 Tidings from April 2009
- Perl 6 Tidings from May 2009
- Perl 6 Tidings from May 2009 (second iteration)
- Perl 6 Tidings from June 2009
- Perl 6 Tidings from August 2009
- Perl 6 Tidings from October 2009
- Timeline for a syntax change in Perl 6
- Visualizing match trees
- Want to write shiny SVG graphics with Perl 6? Port Scruffy!
- We write a Perl 6 book for you
- When we reach 100% we did something wrong
- Where Rakudo Lives Now
- Why Rakudo needs NQP
- Why was the Perl 6 Advent Calendar such a Success?
- What you can write in Perl 6 today
- Why you don't need the Y combinator in Perl 6
- You are good enough!
Tue, 12 May 2009
Subroutines vs. Methods - Differences and Commonalities
Permanent link
This is mostly a response to s1n's post about subs
and methods in Perl 6. He maintains that since methods are very common in
classes, a sub
declaration inside a class should automatically
get the semantics of a method. The reason was a deep confusion about what the
difference is, and if they are different at all (especially since class
methods and subs look very similar at first).
I want to stress that both are quite different in some ways, and indeed deserve different keywords. I won't discuss multi subs and multi methods, because they add nothing new to the points I want to make.
Methods
A method is a piece of code that is associated with an object, which we call the invocant (at least in Perl land). It can never be called without the invocant.
The lookup behaviour of a method is independent of the calling code's scope ore namespace; in the abstractest sense an object passes deals with method calls by passing that method call to its "meta" object (ie that things that manages the object under the hood).
The default meta object looks for that method in the actual class of the object, and if it can't find the method there it'll fall back the parent classes.
Note that this mechanism might be rather different for calls to foreign languages; if you call a method on a Lisp object, then the dispatch will happen with Lisp semantics.
In Perl 6, all methods automatically get access to the invocant through the
self
keyword.
Note that "class" or "static" methods are still ordinary objects, just the invocant is the class itself (or the type object), not an instance of that class.
Subroutines
Subroutines, short subs, are pieces of code that don't have an invocant, and live in a symbol table, a lexical scope or an ordinary variable holding it.
Calling a sub (that's not stored in an ordinary variable) involves looking down the lexical scopes, and falling back to the symbol table.
Subroutines in classes
Usually subroutines live in modules, but they can also exist in classes. However they don't have access to any attributes of that class, just to outer lexicals (as any piece of code in Perl 6 has).
Or to phrase it differently, it's like placing a subroutine in the namespace that the class happens to introduce anyway.
The "different things should look different" paradigm
In Perl 5, often things that do quite different things look very much the
same. One example is reverse, which
does string reversal in scalar context, and list reversal in list context.
That implied that print reverse "abc";
actually prints
abc
, which is very confusing to the beginner, and still annoying
to everybody else.
It also uses the same keyword for subs and methods, because in Perl 5 there's no difference between the two, only the invocation makes the difference. That proved rather difficult for introspection and static code analysis.
The proposal to automatically promote subs to methods inside classes brings us back to the dangerous part of having different things looking similar; it also raises the question how you declare subroutines (not methods) inside a class. We'd have to invent a new syntax for that.
Then when somebody asks how do I write a sub in Perl?, the answer
would be you simply write sub name { ... }
, except in classes,
where you write really_a_sub name { ... }
. I don't want that
kind of answers in our Perl 6 FAQs.